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ROBERT A. DESTRO AND MARK JACOB: CHRISTIAN PERSECUTION IN NIGERIA

#Kaduna #Nigeria #geopolitics

In late 2020 the U.S. State Department added Nigeria to its list of Countries of Particular Concern, which names governments that have “engaged in or tolerated systematic ongoing and egregious violations of religious freedom.” Apparently, Nigeria is the first democracy ever added to the list. Also, the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom has warned of a potential “Christian genocide.”

Joining me today to discuss this troubling situation are two guests. Robert Destro is Professor of Law and founding Director of the Interdisciplinary Program in Law and Religion at the Catholic University of America's Columbus School of Law in Washington, D.C. He has recently served as U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy Human Rights and Labor. Professor Destro also served as a Commissioner on the United States Commission on Civil Rights. He is the co-author of the book Religious Liberty in a Pluralistic Society.

Joining us from Nigeria, Mark Jacob is a barrister in Abuja. He is the former Attorney General of Kaduna State and former national legal adviser of the then-ruling People Democratic Party from 2007 to 2009 afterwards he was director of legal services federal airports authority. He is currently engaged in private legal practice and advocacy for the rights of minority indigenous people.

0:00 Introduction
2:23 Background
7:22 Who is arming these groups?
22:21 Chibok girls and Boko Haram
26:00 Has the Army attacked Christians?
30:18 Depopulation and property rights
35:52 CPC designation
39:05 Regional instability
41:00 Can other governors help the south?
43:00 Hope for elections?
45:20 Judicial system
50:26 Personal danger
51:10 Massive land grab
55:19 Climate change narrative
57:29 Impact of the CPC designation
1:00:18 Can the south help the Middle Belt?
1:05:53 Churches destroyed
1:10:07 Refugees and IDPs
1:13:14 Religion and tribes
1:16:27 What does the future hold?

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